At that "first," even "originary" moment of contact between "modern" India and Europe, Rammohun Roy, in his address to Lord Amherst, pleaded for "a more liberal and enlightened system of instruction, embracing mathematics, natural philosophy, chemistry and anatomy, with other useful sciences," (Tradition Modernity & Svaraj 98). But in the process, Rammohun also denigrated "Byakjurun," "Vedant," "Meemangsa," and "Nyaya Shastra." Whether such self-ridicule was tactical or serious is not clear. To all appearances, Indians wished to welcome modernity, even as they wished not to give up their traditions entirely. The earliest case of this attempted synthesis is Rammohun himself, with his Brahmo Samaj, a sort of modernized version of Vedanta.
Yet, when Thomas Babington Macaulay wrote his Minute of 2 February 1835 in favour of English education, he made ample use of Rammohun's address to Lord Amherst: "I am quite ready to take the Oriental learning at the valuation of the Orientalists themselves. I have never found one among them who could deny that a single shelf of a good European library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia" (ibid 101). In places, his text echoes the very words of Rammohun, as when he cites the procedures laid down for expiating the sin of killing a goat (106), as an example of the uselessness of traditional Indian knowledge.However, perusing "The Life and Letters of Raja Rammohun Roy" (edited by Sophia Dobson Collet, Calcutta, 1914", one finds otherwise.
Rammohun Roy translated Sanskrit works into Bengali, making them much more accessible (and this, along with his journalism, books on grammar, geography, and articles on social issues essentially began modern Bengali literature.)
There is this
"Equally important was the Raja's contributions to the revival of Sanskrit study in Bengal. In his time Sanskrit was at a very low ebb in the province. Sankrit learning was mainly confined to a mechanical cramming in grammar and the Smritis; the Vedas, the Upanishads and Vedanat were almost forgotten. Though an earnest advocate of modern scientific culture, Rammohun Roy was no less ardent in his admiration for and insistent on the revival of the ancient Aryan culture. At the discussions of the Atmiya Sabha {which is where the first public institution teaching English in India was conceived of) ....Rammohun Roy seriously contended at first that "they should establish an assembly or convocation in which what are called the higher or purer dogmas of Vedantism or ancient Hinduism might be taught." But later when he came to stand in favour of western scientific education, he did not altogether abandon his pleas for the revival of ancient Hindu learning, but persevered single-handed in his scheme and at last in 1826 succeeded in establishing a Vedanta college. He appears to have built a house and spent every month a considerable sum of money for it." {He left for England in 1830, and died there in 1833.}
William Adam, July 27, 1826 : Rammohun Roy has lately built a small but very neat and handsome college, which he calls the Vedant College, in which a few youths are at present instructed by a very eminent Pandit, in Sanskrit literature, with a view to the propagation and defence of Hindu Unitarianism. With this institution he is also willing to connect instructions in European science conveyed in the Bengali or Sanskrit language.
His Vedant College and his translations from the Vedanta served alike as witness to his continuity with the historic past of India and as the implement enabling him to connect her to a progressive future. But of his equal readiness to avail himself of the powerful solvents of English influence we are reminded by his publication in 1826 of a Bengali Grammar in English".
"....Pandit Kalibar Vedantabagish observed at a public meeting in commemoration of the 63rd anniversary of the Raja's death ....how he himself was indebted to the Raja for having been first led to the study of the Vedanta by the Raja's writings on the subject in the Tattwabodhini Patrika."
There is a mention of Rammohun Roy's "love for Hafiz and Saadi" - hardly one rejecting Oriental literature as Macaulay did.
Col. Young to Jeremy Bentham, Sept 30, 1928 : It is strange that such a man should be looked upon coldly, not to say disliked by the mass of Europeans -- for he is greatly attached to us and our regime. Not that he loves our churches, or priests, or lawyers, or politicians, but because he considers the contact of our superior race with his degraded and inferior countrymen as the only means and chance they have of improving themselves in knowledge and energy....
Raja Rammohun Roy wore his "sacred thread" to the end. Other writers note he clung on to his caste customs as well.
BTW, regarding what his religious profession was - another such "slippery character" was the Mughal Emperor, Akbar.
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Rammohun Roy's 1823 note to Amherst says - if you want to teach Sanskrit, support the existing Sanskrit schools, and that enhanced teaching of Sanskrit will not benefit the Hindu mind. He says twice, he wants "mathematics, natural philosophy, chemistry, anatomy and other useful sciences". Nowhere does he mention English or English or European literature. (Read it for yourself here (PDF))
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There is one item (Remarks on Settlement in India by Europeans) where he argues that a large body of Europeans and their descendants, "speaking English in common with the bulk of the people" would be good for British interests, even if India was independent. I wonder if Chandrabhan Prasad and his Dalit followers would celebrate the Anglicization of India with a lot of European settlers.
PS: I note that Rammohun Roy repeats frequently in his remarks that the only way his scheme would work is if only educated Europeans of character and capital, the respectable intelligent class are the people who settle in India. I wonder if he is being at least a little tongue-in-cheek about the type of Europeans who were actually to be encountered in India.
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Therefore, though there is much advance publicity for Masani's book, but for the one item, I don't think there is much of a case for him. No doubt the backers of Niall Ferguson will herald Masani's book as well - so what?
I think actually CIP had a glimpse of the truth - Raja Rammohun Roy was the Indian culture's first attempt at syncretism with the now intimately encountered European culture.
CIP · 635 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
CIP · 635 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
It seems to me Westerners usually see things as in terms of exclusive alternatives, while Indians constantly see things in terms of inclusive alternatives. This leads to great misunderstandings. Thus from the Western point of view, Rammohun Roy was a rejectionist of things Indian; from the Indian point of view, Rammohun Roy wanted to weave into the Indian the best of the European. Thus he writes to Lord Amherst in 1823, telling him not to set up a new Sanskrit college, rather provide education in mathematics, anatomy, chemistry, etc., and then three years later in 1826 sets up his Vedant College, where Sanskrit is taught, and he wants to have science education in Bengali or Sanskrit.
Also, it seems very clear to me also that Macaulay was one who thought in terms of exclusive alternatives. One thing which impressed itself upon me is that this great master of languages seems to have done nothing to try to read any Indian work during his stay in India. Likewise his minute of 1835.
CIP · 635 weeks ago
After the the defeat of the orientalists on the (exclusively English) education board, Macaulay replaced two of them with Indians, the first incorporation of Indians into their own governing boards since the British conquest.
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
CIP · 635 weeks ago
CIP · 635 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
Note : no English, and yes, Sanskrit. It would also be very strange to have a Vedant college that didn't have Sanskrit, the fundamental texts Of Vedanta are in Sanskrit.
CIP · 635 weeks ago
CIP · 635 weeks ago
From Wikipedia: He wanted to legitimize Hindu traditions to his European acquaintances by proving that "superstitious practices which deform the Hindu [sic] religion have nothing to do with the pure spirit of its dictates! [sic]"[20] The "superstitious practices" Rammohan Roy objected included sati, caste rigidity, polygamy and child marriages.[21]
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
Either he is stoking English prejudices to get what he wants, or he is joking, or he is being ridiculous ( different from joking!)
CIP · 635 weeks ago
He was pretty explicit about defunding the Sanskrit college in Calcutta, I think - which recommendation of Macaulay's was not adopted, byt the way.
banerjee · 635 weeks ago
banerjee · 635 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 635 weeks ago
Also, while books on Rammohun Roy basically say that Mrityunjaya Vidyalankar and his "Vedanta Chandrika" lost the debate to Rammohun Roy, other books point out the line of influence from Vidyalankar to Vivekananda, and if that is true, Vidyalankar currently has the upper hand. Anyway, I would love to read comprehensively the literature of that period. Alas, I am no Macaulay or Rammohun Roy with respect to facility in languages.