On dailykos.com, alevei writes, about Proto-Indo-European:
But the idea of PIE itself still remains mostly a metaphoric prop. It is
more a way to try to make sense of something that so far remains firmly
in the 'unknowable' column (although it sees plenty of action in the
'theorizable' column) than an actual unified language that was actually
spoken by actual people at some actual point in time.
As a language variationist by training, meaning as someone who
conceptualizes variation and change as constant and defining features of
living languages, I sometimes find it hard to justify (to myself, even)
some of the compromises I have to make in order to teach concepts that
can otherwise be difficult for students (and for me) to get their heads
around. I do try to be up front about it, though, and explain to the
students that I am asking them to join me in suspending our disbelief,
that I think it's important for us to be conscious that we are in fact
having to suspend disbelief and also for us to talk about why we have
to, and that I haven't yet been able to figure out a way for us not to
have to. When we talk about PIE, we are going for convenience, for the short
version, using a word (PIE) or a phrase (Proto-Indo-European) that
refers not to a single, discrete language (if there even is such a
thing) but to a multitude of meanings -- overlapping, complementary,
contradictory -- to save us the time and trouble of stopping and
pondering what all is contained within that word or phrase because if we
did stop to ponder it, there's a good chance that we would never have
time for anything else.
So PIE is a relief, a tool, a technological development that saves us
the trouble of risking a time-consuming mind-blow every time we need to
refer to what were probably a lot of different ways of speaking that
varied across space, probably to the tune of thousands of miles, and
over time, possibly even thousands of years, but that still are somehow,
at least metaphorically, one. And not just any one, but for us the one: Proto-Indo-European, the one that gave rise to so many other ones: Greek,
Bengali, Portuguese, Czech, Kurdish, Icelandic, Hindi, Spanish,
Russian, Armenian, Yiddish, Latin, Afrikaans, Welsh, Catalan, Pashto,
French, and English, to name a few. Some of them are still living and
some are lost to the past, but even many of those lost languages have
traces remaining somewhere in the approximately 440 Indo-European
languages spoken in the 21st century by literally half the population of the planet Earth.
I think about this metaphor and ask the students to think about it
(and about others we use in class) as a kind of "rounding off," roughly
analogous to the way that we can do quick mathematical calculations of
large numbers by rounding them off, trading off precision for speed and
getting somewhere that probably isn't anywhere near close enough but we
pretend it is because we have no choice. One metaphor explains another.
But there had to have been variation during the millenia that PIE is hypothesized to have been extant because there is always variation.
Even in a classroom with 30 people in it, of whom 25 have lived their
whole lives so far within a few hundred miles of one another, there is
always significant variation. The students usually don't notice that
much of it at first; like all speakers of all languages, they have spent
their whole lives becoming proficient at instantaneously distinguishing
between differences they need to pay attention to and the ones they can
ignore. But in only a few short months, most of them become very, very
good at noticing and describing even relatively slight differences among
speakers.
On the other hand, the variation within what we conceptualize as
'PIE' was probably over time and across locations so great as to have
meant mutual unintelligibility among its (possibly imaginary) speakers.
So in essence, in teaching the Indo-European hypothesis, I am asking the
students to imagine and accept as a kind of reality an idealized
version of a language that nobody ever really spoke, to make a deal with
me to treat the abstract as absolute, even though we know it isn't. Not
even close. And yet.
CIP · 622 weeks ago
macgupta 81p · 622 weeks ago
Please do show how the specific language Greek evolved pointing to specific peoples and times.
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