“text does not contain one single general rule stated in the prescriptive mode. General rule of conduct may easily be derived from various statements, but it is significant that the rules are not formulated as such. … The statements are written in the evaluative rather than the normative mode” (p.95).
“Although VL exemplifies reflective ethical thinking, it contains no explicit propositions that argue for or against one type of virtue theory or another and it even sometimes lacks the terms necessary to formulate them. In this respect, the writings of the Greek and Roman virtue theorists are undoubtedly more reflective than what is found in the VL. Yet, this is a difference of degree, not of kind. The writings of the Greeks and the Romans in turn contain little reasoning about ethical language when compared to modern and contemporary moral philosophy.” (Pp.96-97)
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Let us look at the work itself.
http://www.jainlibrary.org/index.php
Jayavallabha's Vajjalaggam available there is a PDF scan of Jayavallabha's Vajjalaggam, Prakrit
Text Society #14, Ahmedabad, 1969, translated by Prof. M.V. Patwardhan, Poona.
Here are some sketchy excerpts and notes:
From the Notes, on the purpose of the book:
1) The compiler of the present anthology was a Jaina and so he pays homage to ...Jina and to Srutadavi, the presiding deity of Jaina canonical literature. The author explains the scope of the subhasitas collected in the present anthology as "dharmaditrivargyuta", connected with righteousness, worldly
success and the enjoyment of worldly happiness, three [out of four] of the goals of human life. {dharma, artha, kama, moksha}
We know of the problems with a translation of "dharma" (today so often rendered as religion). What is a Subhasita?
Here is one meaning:
http://www.ochs.org.uk/node/481
"Subhasitas are Sanskrit sayings that generally make a moral point."
Here is another:
http://www.subhashita.com/
"Subhashita means good speech. They are wise sayings, instructions and stories, either in poetry or in prose composed in Sanskrit language.....Subhasitas act as teacher in formulating the sense of morality and character, which sums up the total of a person's virtues including dispositions, behaviors, habits, likes, dislikes, capacities, traits, ideals, ideas, values, feelings, and intuitions."
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So, with that framework in mind, consider an example of the moral points or wise sayings that VL has:
50. The Section on Unchaste Women
472) There is an arbor in the neighborhood and also a hidden temple crowded with many youths. Oh daughter (damsel), do not weep because your husband is an old man. You have been given in marriage (you have been married) into a nice village!
473) Do not weep with face cast down because the paddy-fields are whitening (with maturation of the grains)(and will shortly be harvested, so you will have no secret place to carry on your illicit love with your paramour). Here are the hemp-gardens..... (474) To the west there are Asoka groves, to the south there is a cluster of banyan trees. Oh, daughter, such a village is not secured without special merit (or good luck)!....
476) The village abounds in youthful fellows; the spring season is on; youthful age is in full swing (she is in the prime of youthful age); her husband is an old man; old(highly intoxicating) wine is at her disposal. If (in the midst of these excitants of passion) she does not turn an unchaste woman, should she die?
477) Oh daughter, by the grace of the Gods and the Brahmanas, there has never been in our family, up till now, the stigma of having a single, virtuous, chaste woman (the stigma of chastity)!
478) A woman is regarded as subhaga (lucky, blessed, popular) if she has had sixty lovers; she rises to the position of Rambha (one of the Apsaras) if she has had a hundred; on attainment of the one-thousand-mark (i.e., if she has had a thousand lovers), Indra (king of the devas) himself honors her by sharing his seat with her.
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481) The unchaste woman said to the chaste woman secretly, drawing close to her ear, "Oh miscreant, you will go to hell if you die ignorant of the experience of the love of a paramour!"
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Let us look at a few more, e.g., after warning that the harlot is simply after money:
574) Crookedness of mind, craftiness in speech, deceptiveness untruthfulness - all these are regarded as serious faults in the case of other (ordinary) persons, but in the care of harlots, they are ornaments (that are highly esteemed).
or from the Virtuous Woman:
464) Though dwelling in a house standing on the fringe of a public square, though lovely in her looks, though young in age, though having her husband gone abroad (on a journey), though having a woman of bad character as her next-door neighbor, and though herself plunged in poverty, still she has maintained her virtue (moral character) inviolate. (the word used for moral character is sheelam.)
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The translator, tells us, by the way, that "Out of the 88 sections and 752 stanzas in the proper corpus of the VL, seven sections (63 stanzas) are concerned with Dharma,... forty seven sections (347 stanzas) are concerned with Artha,... and thirty four sections (342 stanzas) are concerned with Kama.
In terms of percentages, the translator says 8.38% for Dharma, 46.14% for Artha and 45.48% for Kama.
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PS: The excerpts I hope illustrate why people of a Christian European background might think "Hindus have no morality".
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Sadhana · 630 weeks ago
Glad to have your answer but my q was actually for Arun Bhaiya:) Sorry for the confusion.
macgupta 81p · 630 weeks ago
CIP · 630 weeks ago
This is the kind of claim that Dr. B likes to toss around that I don't find credible. No doubt some Europeans, at some point in time, found it convenient to make such claims, but to argue that this some sort of essential and persistent failing of European thought is refuted by even a fairly casual study of Western philosophical and anthropological literature.
macgupta 81p · 630 weeks ago
This is not a matter of prejudice.
E.g., see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normative_ethics
Normative ethics.
There is a good argument that Hindus have no such thing. Therefore, either Hindus have no ethics, or else, we have to expand what ethics means. Balu has been working for several years now on formulating that.
CIP · 630 weeks ago
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dwc · 630 weeks ago
2. . When you contrast reports from Chinese and Greek travellers with those of travellers from religious culture, you find something intriguing: European travellers focussed on religion and morality of Indian heathens. And this has to do with the their common sense that false religion and immorality go hand in hand.
macgupta 81p · 630 weeks ago
6.2. One of the reasons that cultures like India were called ‘immoral’ by the Western thinkers lies here: there is nothing resembling a universal moral norm in our traditions. In the lens of the western culture, it appeared (logically) that all actions are permitted within the Indian culture. Hence the appellation ‘immoral’. This is also the reason why people like Shweder and others transform us into moral imbeciles. (We have not even learnt to formulate the moral norms.)
End quote. http://xyz4000.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/colonial-...
I think the story in my post titled Sheelam illustrates this. Indra tricks Prahlad and gets his virtues and his realm, in a story about the necessity of integrity.